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Avi's avatar

Mostly negative comments here so far. I disagree. Good value here Dwarkesh and Victor. Very interesting. Thanks for the good work.

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Prester John Andrews's avatar

So, China uses it to maintain social and political control but the US uses it to destabilize their economy and society for the profit of a few? Sounds like China has a better approach

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EyeofTiger's avatar

AGI is the biggest hype of the century. Present architecture will not lead you to AGI. First monetize what is available or less the hype will peter out quickly

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EyeofTiger's avatar

Chinas massive debt crisis??? 😂I don’t think you have a clue how debt works . US has public debt at a federal and state travel , household, corporate debt . You are facing a debt doom loop and you continue to spew nonsense about China 🤣

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truthscrolling's avatar

Strongly agree, we westerners are like opium addicts when it comes to debt. DOGE simply failed, and now Donald's "Big beautiful bill" entails trillions more in deficit spending. Quantitatively speaking, the US is in a far worse situation than China here.

You seem to be from the mainland Mr. Tiger, what Chinese writers do you recommend for a more internal perspective?

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Joel J Miller's avatar

Holy cow!

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Ned Oat's avatar

Great great conversation

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James R's avatar

Dwarkesh - Was this interview in 2021? Cues in the questions & answers seem to allude to that but I'm not seeing it mentioned anywhere.

Also... I hope EyeofTiger appreciates the opportunity to host his own peanut gallery forum here. Smartest guy in the room candidate. /s

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Michael Wiebe's avatar

Victor cites Kung and Chen (2019) at 1:05:20.

But I found serious errors in their analysis:

https://x.com/michael_wiebe/status/1750572552123248914

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/20531680241229875

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Abubakar Abdulfatah's avatar

Why did Dwarkesh keep bringing up zero-covid? :/

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Robert Rosenberg's avatar

This is a flaccid discussion of a very important issue. I’m disappointed that you could not do better.

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EyeofTiger's avatar

Never trust these so called China experts living in the U.S. They spew nonsense. DP loves to host these clowns who are in keeping with his confirmation bias. It’s all about monetizing content . The more the colorful the anti China narrative is , the more the audience and higher the revenue.

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EyeofTiger's avatar

Read the book - The American Trap - Frédéric Pierucci

This will give you an insight on how America operates. Recall US kidnapped Meng Wanzhou ( CFO of the most advanced tech company in the world Huawei ). 😂

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EyeofTiger's avatar

China expert 😂 Ever heard of “Myth of the Cave” . Step out of the cave man and edify . Question to people like you is , why are Americans so insecure and uncompetitive? Everything you have were developed by MNCs operating in many countries ( majority in China) , with the help of Foreigners. So stop weaponizing shared IPs.

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truthscrolling's avatar

Many useful facts in this one — I love how information dense these can be.

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EyeofTiger's avatar

Follow smart people like Glenn and learn https://x.com/glennluk/status/1920081064166388162?s=46

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EyeofTiger's avatar

Stop listening to these so called China experts based in U.S. They spew nonsense to please the US establishment 🤡

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