So, China uses it to maintain social and political control but the US uses it to destabilize their economy and society for the profit of a few? Sounds like China has a better approach
Chinas massive debt crisis??? 😂I don’t think you have a clue how debt works . US has public debt at a federal and state travel , household, corporate debt . You are facing a debt doom loop and you continue to spew nonsense about China 🤣
Strongly agree, we westerners are like opium addicts when it comes to debt. DOGE simply failed, and now Donald's "Big beautiful bill" entails trillions more in deficit spending. Quantitatively speaking, the US is in a far worse situation than China here.
You seem to be from the mainland Mr. Tiger, what Chinese writers do you recommend for a more internal perspective?
Great episode. It indirectly highlights something about China that I've been thinking for years: they aren't the threat that we make them out to be. The fear of China and the resulting pursuit of stupid policies is the bigger threat.
Never trust these so called China experts living in the U.S. They spew nonsense. DP loves to host these clowns who are in keeping with his confirmation bias. It’s all about monetizing content . The more the colorful the anti China narrative is , the more the audience and higher the revenue.
Read the book - The American Trap - Frédéric Pierucci
This will give you an insight on how America operates. Recall US kidnapped Meng Wanzhou ( CFO of the most advanced tech company in the world Huawei ). 😂
China expert 😂 Ever heard of “Myth of the Cave” . Step out of the cave man and edify . Question to people like you is , why are Americans so insecure and uncompetitive? Everything you have were developed by MNCs operating in many countries ( majority in China) , with the help of Foreigners. So stop weaponizing shared IPs.
Mostly negative comments here so far. I disagree. Good value here Dwarkesh and Victor. Very interesting. Thanks for the good work.
So, China uses it to maintain social and political control but the US uses it to destabilize their economy and society for the profit of a few? Sounds like China has a better approach
Chinas massive debt crisis??? 😂I don’t think you have a clue how debt works . US has public debt at a federal and state travel , household, corporate debt . You are facing a debt doom loop and you continue to spew nonsense about China 🤣
Strongly agree, we westerners are like opium addicts when it comes to debt. DOGE simply failed, and now Donald's "Big beautiful bill" entails trillions more in deficit spending. Quantitatively speaking, the US is in a far worse situation than China here.
You seem to be from the mainland Mr. Tiger, what Chinese writers do you recommend for a more internal perspective?
Interesting because China's system sounds both worse and better than I thought.
Curious how bad the US political system and economy would sound when discussed by two Chinese experts.
Great episode. It indirectly highlights something about China that I've been thinking for years: they aren't the threat that we make them out to be. The fear of China and the resulting pursuit of stupid policies is the bigger threat.
Holy cow!
Great great conversation
Dwarkesh - Was this interview in 2021? Cues in the questions & answers seem to allude to that but I'm not seeing it mentioned anywhere.
Also... I hope EyeofTiger appreciates the opportunity to host his own peanut gallery forum here. Smartest guy in the room candidate. /s
https://youtu.be/A4WrwaClq98?si=dnN8p1iSarWEijsB
Victor cites Kung and Chen (2019) at 1:05:20.
But I found serious errors in their analysis:
https://x.com/michael_wiebe/status/1750572552123248914
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/20531680241229875
Why did Dwarkesh keep bringing up zero-covid? :/
This is a flaccid discussion of a very important issue. I’m disappointed that you could not do better.
Never trust these so called China experts living in the U.S. They spew nonsense. DP loves to host these clowns who are in keeping with his confirmation bias. It’s all about monetizing content . The more the colorful the anti China narrative is , the more the audience and higher the revenue.
Read the book - The American Trap - Frédéric Pierucci
This will give you an insight on how America operates. Recall US kidnapped Meng Wanzhou ( CFO of the most advanced tech company in the world Huawei ). 😂
China expert 😂 Ever heard of “Myth of the Cave” . Step out of the cave man and edify . Question to people like you is , why are Americans so insecure and uncompetitive? Everything you have were developed by MNCs operating in many countries ( majority in China) , with the help of Foreigners. So stop weaponizing shared IPs.
Many useful facts in this one — I love how information dense these can be.
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